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The Fatima Meer ChatDieter Ludwig (Thu Nov 14 22:34:40 1996 IST):
That's lovely. He cooks supper for you after all these years. Wonderful! Someday, you must write about your lives together. A memoir is called for, don't you think? And please, let that not be one of the two questions. Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:35:17 1996 IST):
Dr Fatima Meer: PLEASEEEEEEE ANSWER MY QUESTION? Niyanta Singh (Thu Nov 14 22:35:30 1996 IST):
Dieter Ludwig..yes i am ..where r u from? Dieter Ludwig (Thu Nov 14 22:35:47 1996 IST):
Thank you, Madam, for chatting with us this night. May God take care of you. Dieter Ludwig (Thu Nov 14 22:35:58 1996 IST):
Bonn. Dr Fatima Meer (Thu Nov 14 22:36:55 1996 IST):
Dieter: I don't think in that matter I hope. We cannot afford the Terreblanches and the kind of violence that we have gone through in the last decade or so. We hope and pray for peace throughout the world. We were intended by the almighty to live in peace and harmony Ravi (Thu Nov 14 22:37:11 1996 IST):
Do you think it is right to deify someone? Isn't is better to look up to someone as a great
human being (Mandela) instead of elevating him to a god like status (Gandhi)? Niyanta Singh (Thu Nov 14 22:37:14 1996 IST):
of course yes dieter ludwig Phoenix, Durban (Thu Nov 14 22:37:16 1996 IST):
Does that mean Krish Mackerdhuj has been unable to get blacks into the cricket team? That's an interesting
point to make because Jonty Rhodes was on this Chat last week and he say blacks would be in the team only
in five or ten years.
Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:37:45 1996 IST):
Dr Fatima Meer: Please answer my question? Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:39:08 1996 IST):
What are the standards of honesty in the ANC administration?
I ask because sometime back you spoke of Cyril Ramphoosa being big business. What are the levels of probity in the Mandela administration? Kim (Thu Nov 14 22:40:06 1996 IST):
Hi Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:41:06 1996 IST):
The challenges to Mbeki or Ramphoosa or however succeeds Mandela will come from the townships, racial intolerance and, of course, the fear that dominates all African societies. As an outsider, I am pessimistic about the future of your country. Is there a basis for the optimism you have demonstrated so eloquently on this Chat? Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:41:51 1996 IST):
What do you say to the Great man when you meet him? How has he changed? Dr Fatima Meer (Thu Nov 14 22:42:03 1996 IST):
Karl: I couldn't resist your appeal for answer. I share your concern for the elimination of poverty not only in SA, but throughout the world. Let us pray for wisdom on the part of our govts and generosity on those who have hoarded wealth. We hope this conflict between the haves and have nots will be resolved Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:42:22 1996 IST):
Please give us your insight on Mr Mandela, something we can remember him by when we leave this Chat room. Kim (Thu Nov 14 22:43:04 1996 IST):
Prof Meer please give us the chance to interact with Nelson Mandela can you do something? Kim (Thu Nov 14 22:43:04 1996 IST):
Prof Meer please give us the chance to interact with Nelson Mandela can you do something? Kim (Thu Nov 14 22:43:05 1996 IST):
Prof Meer please give us the chance to interact with Nelson Mandela can you do something? Kim (Thu Nov 14 22:43:05 1996 IST):
Prof Meer please give us the chance to interact with Nelson Mandela can you do something? Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:43:21 1996 IST):
Your insights into Nelson Mandela would be a
good way to end this Chat. We pray for him as we do for you and Mr Meer. Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:43:53 1996 IST):
The challenges to Mbeki or Ramphoosa or however succeeds Mandela will come from the townships, racial
intolerance and, of course, the fear that dominates all African societies. As an outsider, I am pessimistic about
the future of your country. Is there a basis for the optimism you have demonstrated so eloquently on this Chat?
Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:44:00 1996 IST):
Dr Fatima Meer: I'm sorry to be harsh. But I must say that Nelson Mandela has betrayed the revolution and has turned Capitalist after spending 27 years of his life in prison? PLEASSEEEEE ANSWER? Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:45:46 1996 IST):
Karl: ou are obviously an imbecile. Please do not interrupt this Chat with your juvenile views. Since when must 27 years in prison define someone's ideology? Begone, cretin! Dr Fatima Meer (Thu Nov 14 22:46:15 1996 IST):
Karl: I couldn't resist your appeal for answer. I share your concern for the elimination of poverty not only in SA, but throughout the world. Let us pray for wisdom on the part of our govts and generosity on those who have hoarded wealth. We hope this conflict between the haves and have nots will be resolved Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:46:30 1996 IST):
Dr Fatima Meer: Do you believe in the violently over throwing the system to eliminate poverty, if yes why? And if not why? Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:46:35 1996 IST):
Karl: You are obviously an IMBECILE. Please do not interrupt this Chat with your juvenile views. Since when must
27 years in prison define someone's ideology? Begone, cretin!
Gulab (Thu Nov 14 22:46:45 1996 IST):
hello - waiting to hear the answer to Mr. R.B.Sharma's question. Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:47:13 1996 IST):
Please give us your insight on Mr Mandela, something we can remember him by when we leave this Chat
room.
Your insights into Nelson Mandela would be a good way to end this Chat. We pray for him as we do for you
and Mr Meer.
Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:47:46 1996 IST):
The challenges to Mbeki or Ramphoosa or however succeeds Mandela will come from the townships, racial
intolerance and, of course, the fear that dominates all African societies. As an outsider, I am pessimistic about
the future of your country. Is there a basis for the optimism you have demonstrated so eloquently on this Chat?
Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:47:56 1996 IST):
Ram Bihari Sharma: How old are U ????? Lata (Thu Nov 14 22:48:12 1996 IST):
I second that begone KARL Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:48:17 1996 IST):
The challenges to Mbeki or Ramphoosa or however succeeds Mandela will come from the townships, racial
intolerance and, of course, the fear that dominates all African societies. As an outsider, I am pessimistic about
the future of your country. Is there a basis for the optimism you have demonstrated so eloquently on this Chat?
Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:49:12 1996 IST):
Please give us your insight on Mr Mandela, something we can remember him by when we leave this Chat
room. Your insights into Nelson Mandela would be a good way to end this Chat. We pray for him as we do
for you and Mr Meer.
Gulab (Thu Nov 14 22:50:14 1996 IST):
Mr. Sharma and Lata - everyone has a right to voice their views and opinion as u yrself. please keep that in mind before saying begone to someone. Dr Fatima Meer (Thu Nov 14 22:50:42 1996 IST):
All: This has been a wonderful experience for me. I have felt close to you and am sad to cut off Dieter, Phoenix, Trenton, Alexander, Naina, Mr. Sharma, Ravi, Savera & Niyanta whom I will meet. I am happy that one of you found optimism in my demeanour. That is in contrast to Mr. Sharma who sensed bitterness. Our country has changed dramatically and for the better - I am hopeful... Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:51:27 1996 IST):
The challenges to Mbeki or Ramphoosa or however succeeds Mandela will come from the townships, racial
intolerance and, of course, the fear that dominates all African societies. As an outsider, I am pessimistic about
the future of your country. Is there a basis for the optimism you have demonstrated so eloquently on this Chat?
Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:51:46 1996 IST):
Please give us your insight on Mr Mandela, something we can remember him by when we leave this Chat
room. Your insights into Nelson Mandela would be a good way to end this Chat. We pray for him as we do
for you and Mr Meer.
Gulab (Thu Nov 14 22:51:52 1996 IST):
Dr. Fatima Meer can u provide us with your insight on Mr. Mandela? Dr Fatima Meer (Thu Nov 14 22:53:21 1996 IST):
...We have to share both political and economic power in order to become 1 people. Mr Ramaphosa is doing a fine job in opening up Black economic enterprise.
Together we will win. Namaste, Salaam-a-laikum and Good bye. Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:53:39 1996 IST):
I think she's gone. It was good talking to her. Good night folks. Karl (Thu Nov 14 22:53:45 1996 IST):
Dr Fatima Meer: Please answer. Ravi (Thu Nov 14 22:53:46 1996 IST):
Dr Meer: Are you there? Or have you left us without even saying good-bye? Lata (Thu Nov 14 22:53:46 1996 IST):
Bye Prof Meer Alexander Trotman (Thu Nov 14 22:54:16 1996 IST):
Thank you, Dr Meer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Sharma. Good night all. Gulab (Thu Nov 14 22:54:17 1996 IST):
Namastay Dr. Meer and thanks for the time u spent here with us. bye. Ram Bihari Sharma (Thu Nov 14 22:54:55 1996 IST):
Good night, Professor Meer. I am sorry for upsetting you. Did you enjoy the experience? Lata (Thu Nov 14 22:55:36 1996 IST):
Bye Prof Meer Savera (Thu Nov 14 22:55:49 1996 IST):
Bye, Dr Meer! It was great having you with us. Iqbal, thank you so much for all your help. This was a wonderful experience for all of us. Savera (Thu Nov 14 22:55:49 1996 IST):
Bye, Dr Meer! It was great having you with us. Iqbal, thank you so much for all your help. This was a wonderful experience for all of us.
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